Remember that list you had of everything you would NEVER do when you became a parent?
Bribery topped my list.
I wouldn’t need it.
I’d parent through an ongoing open and honest dialogue with my children. In this way they would grow and make the best choices for themselves, like, organically.
Please stop laughing.
Seriously. It’s not funny.
Because fast forward about a decade to where I have an almost six-year-old who won’t stop sucking her fingers.
We’re long past encouragement, friendly reminders, begging and pleading, and well into the bribery realm of parenthood on this one.
Really. Puppies and rainbows in it for you if you JUST STOP.
I remember gloating when she gave up the soother before 6 months – obviously due to my rock-star parenting skills, right?
Not so much. Apparently it had more to do with the fact that her fingers were way more convenient, what with them being with her 24-7.
When she was still sucking them happily at 12-18 months we thought it would pass and that she’d grow out of it.
When she entered daycare and education-land, with each passing caregiver, early childhood educator or teacher she got, at the first parent-teacher meeting we’d get lectures couched in advice about what we could do to encourage her to stop.
Like we weren’t trying.
These inevitably petered off as each of them – daycare, nursery school, kindergarten – were apparently equally unable to help her stop.
On our end, we would go on stints of extra encouragement at home, prep the dentist and doctor to give a little talk each time we took her, these all ended in defeat, that my husband and I covered up in rational discussions to each other about how she “just wasn’t ready yet”.
We had a moment of hope shortly after she began Senior Kindergarten where her finger got infected – all red and yellow and swollen and painful. And scary.
We took her to the doctor, who drained it, gave us some sort of super Polysporin and did a heroic job of instilling the fear of God into our child that this was due to her sucking her fingers and she really needed to stop.
Fear of being subjected to another needle kept her fingers out of her mouth ….
…. for about a month.
We’d given up on anyone other than us trying to help when our daughter mysteriously came home one day from Senior Kindergarten with a dolphin.
She told us it was hers. We gave her a serious talk about how she shouldn’t walk off with someone else’s toy. How would she feel if someone took her bunny? Didn’t she think someone would be missing the dolphin?
She kept trying to tell us it was hers and why wouldn’t we believe her?
We told her it could “sleep over” tonight and sent it back to school the next day with an apologetic note to the teacher…
…who then sent a note back explaining it was “hers” to use in class as they were using it as a tool to get her to stop sucking her fingers. Every time she wanted to suck her fingers, she was instead encouraged to pet the dolphin.
So we tried the strategy at home too. It worked, when she was reminded. But not really.
School ended, summer started, and she started talking about wanting a tablet for her birthday this fall.
I paused, for just a moment, before blurting out:
If you stop sucking your fingers by then, we’ll get you a tablet.
My husband shot me a death-ray glare, before also accepting he’d be okay with bribery at this point and we both got behind Project “Don’t You Want a Tablet?”.
Two weeks into that we had to accept that the answer was “Not enough to stop sucking my fingers.”
But now that I’d already crossed the line into bribery-land, I figured what did I have to lose by simply modifying my approach?
I wondered if the problem was that it was just too theoretical a reward. Constantly not doing something she wants to do to MAYBE get something she wants three months from now wasn’t going to work with my 5-year-old.
So the next time we were in the grocery store and she asked for a treat I promptly responded:
You can have a treat if you don’t suck your fingers for entire time we are shopping.
Challenge accepted. We even selected the treat RIGHT THEN AND THERE so she could see it in the cart as a reminder of what she’d get if she successfully completed the challenge.
I caught her the first time and gave her a mini-pass. She could still have it IN THE CAR if she made it from now, through check-out, and out the store without sucking her fingers.
Nope.
Okay, make it home and you can have two pieces before dinner.
Nope. Caught via the rear-view mirror on the way home.
She cried and pleaded. I held firm. No candy.
She promised to last from the car, through home and dinner.
I agreed to candy after dinner if she could do it.
She did.
We are now referring to this as the sucking candy.
I have no idea if this is going to work, but we will be keeping a stash of it for the next while to try.
And we’ve been having a number of “I know how hard this is” “So proud of you for trying” conversations.
If this doesn’t work, I think the next plan will be a finger-guard. Because we’re at the stage where it sincerely needs to stop.
What about you? Any tips to help us break the habit? Any habits you struggled to get your child to break?
Photo credits: Lollipop border courtesy of Salvatore Vuono at FreeDigitalPhotos.net. Balloon from Clip Art Panda and the puppy from here.
Omg, I couldn’t stop laughing 🙂
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I go between laughing and crying – but thank you 🙂
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Haha, me too!
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Oh my gosh. I bribe my kids All. The. Time. You are not alone. Most of the time it doesn’t work for us either. I wish i had a good solution for you.
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I appreciate the “you’re not alone” comment even if it didn’t come with a solution 🙂 Those are elusive. Trust me. I know.
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Why is it bribing and not positive reinforcement? Getting a little reward for doing what is desired.
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Agreed. You can call it positive reinforcement. But it still feels like bribery to me. I’m not sure where the line happens if I’m being honest – but “I’ll give you a tablet if you stop” totally crossed it in my book.
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I’m sorry, I was laughing too. though I am pretty sure M had some type of habit like this and I have just managed to block it out.
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See!? But that gives me hope that in 14 years I’ll be in your shoes TRYING to remember what it was that was so frustrating about this stage of parenthood!
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Habits like this are so hard to break. Best of luck to you as you use your own mommy wisdom about your own child on this one!
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Thanks so much. I’m actually somewhat hopeful that candy bribery combined with “you’re a big girl now”/”so proud of you for trying” talks might actually be working. We had a good night tonight!
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I am fighting this battle as well – my son is 4 and a half. We’ve found nothing to be successful so far, I hope you will find the cure and share it!
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I feel your pain (obviously). So if this (or anything else) pans out, I’ll be sure to report back.
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When I was a kid and sucked on my fingers, my parents had this liquid stuff that they painted on my fingers and tasted awful when I wanted to suck on them. I don’t know what it’s called, but I just remember how nasty it was when I stuck my fingers in my mouth.
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A few have mentioned something similar to what you are describing – but I have yet to find it. Not sure I’d have the heart to do it (although there are certainly moments where I’ve been tempted). Did it work?
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We *really* struggled to get our second daughter to ditch the soother habit…so I feel your pain! And by the way…no judgement here on the bribery…I think you’d be very hard pressed to find a parent who *never* does it!!
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Thanks! I just remember my pre-parent days and cringe. Very vivid memories of teaching swim lessons and watching parents bribe their kids with a treat after if they listened etc… and thinking how I would NEVER do that. Meanwhile, I am now at the stage of trying to hammer home to my eldest that a treat, by definition, is exceptional, and not something to be expected daily. Sigh.
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I LOVE this! Believe me, you are not alone in the bribing!!! It has to be done and I wish you luck. I fully believe there is nothing wrong with it. Adults get bonuses as work or things…. isn’t that a bribe as well?!
As for the thumb sucking… my sister had a problem with it and my mom used the nail polish made for that that tasted HORRIBLE. Do they still sell that? It worked for my sister. Good luck! And thanks for the fun read.
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I really don’t know if they still sell the polish. If candy bribes fail I may look into it as it sounds more affordable that finger guards…
And that you for the encouragement. It’s been a long haul.
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That stuff didn’t work for me. I sucked right through it. It loses its bite after a while.
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I suspect my child would too … I’m curious if it still exists – I should go have a look just to know.
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I remember it being called Bitter Apple but that seems to be marketed for dogs these days. This is what it looked like. http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=10831&catid=323693&aid=338666&aparam=10831&kpid=10831&CAWELAID=120142990000052434&CAGPSPN=pla&kpid=10831
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Thanks! Now at least I know!
Curious why for dogs now? (ie: is there regulatory reason not to market for people anymore…and not sure about the “keep out of reach of children” warning, unless that’s for the whole bottle – because it is otherwise marketed as harmless.) Either way, I’m not convinced I’m going there – but at least now I know what this mysterious concoction is!
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I’m not sure. I may be remembering it wrong. But it was in a tiny bottle with a brush like the Thum.
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In any event appreciate you sharing the link so I now know what the mystery nail polish is everyone keeps talking about!
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This story definitely nails this part of parenthood! I don’t have kids of my own but seeing parents try to stop the bad habits it a long, and ongoing process until something finally sticks. Unfortunately, that something is different for each child, and can be different over time. Have fun parents!
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Thanks! That’s pretty much what we’re doing over here – trying different things until something works!
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This may horrify instead of help, but here goes. I was a chronic thumb sucker. Nothing my parents or Grandparents did could stop me. It was to comforting. I did stop sucking at school when I started at a new school half way through first grade; I didn’t want the new kids to think I was a baby. I still sucked away at home and when the teacher made us put our heads down or showed a movie. I sucked away at home until the end of Fifth grade when a new girl with the same name as me came to my school. We were immediate friends. I don’t remember how it happened, but we confessed our dark secrets to each other. I still sucked my thumb and she still wet the bed. We made a pact to stop. And I never sucked my thumb again.
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Cynthia – thank you very much for this comment. It actually doesn’t horrify me too much. If my kid can stop sucking her fingers at least in public this year (ie: by first grade) I’ll be grateful. I suspect it is coming soon because she is pretty attuned to the opinions of others (a boy a daycare recently called her “gross” for sucking her fingers – they’ve been friendly for years so it was extra hurtful. I wish he’d been more considerate, but it did let us have a talk about how she was hitting an age where people usually don’t do this).
As far as sucking away until 5th Grade goes – I hope that doesn’t happen – but I completely take your point that it took a friend and not a parent to motivate you to stop – and that is a wonderful story by the way. I hope you are still friends 🙂
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Sadly, she moved away in 8th grade and is one of the few people I have not found on Facebook. I keep looking. She is in several of my short stories.
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I’m glad you captured her in your writing, but sad that she didn’t see you through the wonder years and beyond because she sounds like a great friend to have through all that.
I have a few people who mattered at key moments in my life that I’d love to find that I never have on Facebook either.
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It’s always possible my Grandma thought if it was safe for dogs it was safe kids. It was my Grandma, who lived with us, that put it on my thumb.
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I think of it as incentives rather than bribery. Works for adults, why not for kids? Sometimes, kids just need what they need. They have to make their own decisions about what they want for themselves, even when pretty young. All of my kids rejected the pacifier in favor of self-soothing, all with their own strategies. They still cling to those at times (at home). One of them is 13. I can’t make them give them up. I just can’t do it. That would be saying to them that self-soothing is wrong. Is it?
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My main concern is the impact on her adult teeth as they grow in. I don’t want unnecessary dental issues that could have been avoided if I’d just been a bit pushier.
I’m all for self-soothing so long as I don’t think there’s any harm – I’m just not convinced sucking her fingers is harmless. She also has a bunny that is soothing. I’m fine with that. If she wants water in bed, I’m fine with that too.
And as far as incentives vs bribery – looking at it I think candy falls into that realm. I’m pretty sure a tablet crosses my line into bribery. Though I will need to think on the why (but it’s mainly the price).
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I agree with you. I didn’t think about the dental issues. Candy causes more dental issues. I like the tablet or doll or whatever because it might be something you plan to get eventually anyway. Then the only thing the child wins is the timing — she gets is sooner than she otherwise would. That makes it an incentive rather than bribery. I think of bribery as giving things that aren’t good for her and teach her to want unhealthy things.
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Okay – I am in denial about the candy dental issues here. I do agree with the idea that “if we were going to get her a tablet anyway we might as well use it as incentive”.
Bribery as teaching her to want things that are unhealthy – yeah, I see that point. I don’t think I can back out of the candy agreement at this point, but I’ll keep that in mind moving forward. Great point.
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It’s tough being a parent. A constant dance of right and wrong, energy and fatigue and ideas and confusion. You’re doing a great job!!
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My first grader still sucks her fingers and I can’t get her to stop either. It’s so frustrating, I’m right there with you, sadly. If I find a magic solution, I’ll let you know! Thanks for linking up at the Manic Mondays blog hop!
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Oh! If yours stops, please let me know what did the trick.
Puppies and rainbows in it for you… 😉
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I read this the other day and meant to comment! I can so relate to this as my almost 6yo still sucks her thumb!!! It is awful!
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Well! At least this post has shown I’m not alone! That’s something.
Thanks for coming back to comment. And if yours ever stops, swing by and let me know what it was that “did it”.
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Well her birthday is coming up and I told her 6 year Olds don’t suck their thumb so we will see lol
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Let me know how that goes! If it works I’ll try just passing a similar “law” when mine turns six and see if it works…
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Both our daughters were finger suckers, and I had read that they would “naturally outgrow it” by the time they were 4 or so. Our youngest did exactly that, but our oldest did not – we’d catch her with her fingers in her mouth while watching TV or riding in the car or any time she was tired, and she did it to fall asleep at night. She’s now almost 11 and finally stopped only about six months ago, but no bribes or threats ever worked. Some things did help – sending her to wash her hand every single time we caught her made it more annoying so she didn’t do it during the day as often, and after she turned 9 I used to sit with her and hold her hand while she was falling asleep so she got used to sleeping without the sucking (but she’d still suck any time she rolled over in the night).
What finally did work: she got an appliance in her mouth to spread out her teeth because her upper jaw was too small. It’s a common thing now with kids aged 10 or so. With the appliance in, sucking was just too hard and annoying. We also used it as a discussion point to talk about how she was getting older and did not want to be embarrassed in front of her friends at sleepovers, and she wouldn’t want to ruin all the work the appliance was doing by sucking. She herself resolved to use this as an opportunity to quit and I think that was really the important thing – she WANTED to quit.
We used to despair over the sucking and a friend of ours once told us that he sucked his fingers while falling asleep until he was FOURTEEN. So yeah – if you have a determined finger sucker, you might be in for a long haul.
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You raised a couple points here that I think have come into play with our daughter. First, she didn’t “just grow out of it” – so we’re past that. Next, I don’t think she wants to quit, and we’re past the stage where she’s young enough that self-determination isn’t playing a large role here – so the challenge for us has clearly become making her “want” to quit.
You hinted at shaming – ie: not wanting to be embarrassed at sleepovers. I would never really want to use this, but I also don’t want my child to be mocked for something she can avoid if SHE WANTS TO. We’ve already had a sampling of this from daycare where she told me one of the older boys called her “gross” for sucking her fingers. I tried to gently point out that while that was unkind of him, there are people who would agree with him so perhaps she should at least try not to do it in public. It was an odd moment, because I hated the idea of making her self-conscious, and don’t want her thinking any earlier than necessary about “what others think” but there it is. I also think she’s pretty attuned to all that anyway already. And if that helps her WANT to stop – I’m good with that.
Thanks for the comment (and I sincerely hope I’m not still posting on this topic when she’s fourteen).
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My favorites: “Stop laughing, seriously, it’s not funny” & “Death ray glare”…
I guess now that I’m into the teen years, I’m wondering if it matters that she’s sucking them? In the grand scheme of things, is it worth the stress and duress that it’s putting you all under. As well, it could be possible that she’s holding on to the habit because she sees how hyped everyone is about it (kids…).
Hang tight and focus on other things that you love about her, choices she makes and things you’re grateful for. Give those things more attention and give her and yourselves lots of grace. It’s a season, right?
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Thanks for this – I know it will eventually end – but I also don’t want her to mess up her teeth unnecessarily if we can break the habit. It also gives her a wicked callous on her finger and some kids make fun of her for it – which, I figure, we can avoid if she just stops. She is starting to make an effort, so I’m stepping back a wee bit on the pushing now and mostly just reminding and encouraging when I notice she’s done a good job. We’ll see.
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